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Good morning. I just saw this group and decided to join in. I'm a landscape, nature, wildlife photographer from Los Angeles. On the commercial side, I've done editorial work and art-directed many car shoots (still and video).
A chemgram is a photographic image that's made by the action of chemicals on light sensitive materials. Most of the colors come from interaction with the silver nitrate. In tne case of a Photo/chem gram, the imagery is from both light (photogram) and chemical reactions (chemgram).
Hope that helps... joseph
Here's a link to an interesting show at New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art: "Faking it: Manipulated Photography Before Photoshop"
I'm not sure if (many?) dislike PhotoShop because of its' ease of manipulation or not, but none-the-less, manipulation has been going on for a long time (Bill Jay's book, "Cyanide & Spirits" has some hilarious comments about the history of manipulation in photography. California purists from Carleton Watkins to Ansel Adams manipulated both negatives and prints to get a desired outcome. Physical manipulations of a print was one of the major assignments in the beginning classes at the Art Center College of Design. PhotoShop is just a step in a long process of changing reality. In fact, the mere fact of making a "straight" camera image is "changing reality as we see it..."
I think I will experiment with PS. My rule in life:I Don't throw anything away, it could creep into my art. Its good to air out what concerns us as artists.
I think the topic James brought up is of interest and controversy for lots of people including spectators . I am glad James brought this topic up.I dont think we settled much but, it is useful to start talking about it or recognize it as a topic... There are other heated topics I come across, such as worth and value of realistic art verses abstract expecially among photographers.Photographers ( not all) seem to have a dislike for anything that is not a copy of reality as we see it
I did not want to insult anyone, just wanted to bring the subject up. The digital world is here and is expanding at the speed of light. I feel like the old trying to stop the new, better and improved. I am not, do it. I would like to hear what other artists think about it.
I am making these comments partly because I don't want to abandon or disrespect/ disregard artists/photographers using Photoshop
I live with my domestic partner(of more than a decade long ) who is one of the best realistic artists I have seen..He thinks that how I create part of my art using Photoshop is way more difficult and time consuming than what he uses.. a canvas ,paint and brushes..He feels it would be too difficult for him to use Photoshop.. I think some people think that one can just generate art with Photoshop in a matter of minutes and that creativity is not involved..that it is just some automatic process
Ill just add some of my thoughts..I think that just like in science ,artistic journeys are about experimentation,discovery,creation of techniques,materials as much as expressions of vision..the two are intimately connected and i think that how an instrument,technique is used is much part of who the artist/scientist is..people have created healing/joy and harm/ prejudice using scientific methods..but just think about what it would be like if we didn't discover the microscope.. experimenting with new/old technique is very much part of the journey.. even in politics ..what happens with a political system outcome depends on who is interpreting it and what their inclinations, biases might be and how its being used.. so the discussion might be about who is using it and how rather than the technique itself
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